<nettime> resending.... from hypertext to codework

["Paul D. Miller" <anansi1@mail.earthlink.net>]

Hey Ken -
1) Artaud - relatively decent Artaud sites:
http://www.hydra.umn.edu/artaud/ab.html

http://www.antoninartaud.org/home.html

and the Artaud reference can be found in the "Theater and It's 
Double" at the beginning of the section entitled "The Theater and its 
Shadow"

around p.49 in the edition I have "la realite virtuelle" - 1938.... 
in the section called the "theater and it's shadow" or something like 
that... the original context was that humans were inundated with life 
as symbolic reality... both me and Erik Davis deal with this in our 
respective writings on the topic.

2) There's plenty of room for figuring out how Walter Ong's ideas of 
orality and text flow together, his book "Orality and Literacy: the 
Technologizing of the Word"  remains a pretty good glimpse into how 
words became "the noetic navigation of places" - but words assign 
place and meaning on-line, but in the world of stuff like Amos 
Tutualoa or John Lee (the black hacker on the cover of Wired a long 
time ago who was into the whole language as cipher-text etc etc his 
crew was called "The Masters of Deception"), it'd be nifty to figure 
out on how mantras etc etc fit into this too....

3) your idea that "everything Alan does is a proposition on how to 
read..." - well, yep, but again, it's the permutations of the process 
that make reading him interesting. Otherwise, no disrespect to Alan, 
it'd be like listening to the same beat over and over and over... 
even the linguistic origins of jazz (from the French verb "jazzer" - 
which means to "have a dialog") - still pertains to what you spoke 
about.Some of this relates basically as the "lowest common 
denominator" kind of scenario to the "sequencing/spatializing" of the 
word that Ong deals with, but again, there's plenty of stuff like 
that in electronic music at this point... There's a couple of great 
treatments of that topic in Robert Farris Thompson's classic "Flash 
of the Spirit"...

4) yep, I agree about mixing styles and genres... in academia, there 
are rules and regulations about this kind of thing - and keeping the 
boundaries between "zones" in this day and age is getting more and 
more problematic, but I have a feeling the next generation of folks 
will all look at this kind of thing as a video game or hypertext of a 
kind of collaborative filtering or something... if you still have 
that article around (the one on language and whatnot with henry louis 
gates etc etc) we're still working on getting 21C started up - I've 
been travelling alot, and that's slowed things down..... Let me know 
if you'd be into re-publishing it or something. I'm going to set up 
the web version of the magazine first and deal with the print in a 
little bit (www.21cmagazine.com is up and running, but again, there's 
only 24 hours in the day... I have a decent amount of articles from 
various folks, but I need about two weeks of down-time - which I'm 
taking in mid-October - to finalize everything... more on that in a 
bit)
okay,
peace from Florida
Paul



>Thanks to Paul for
>his remarks, but i
>think, as they say,
>that
>i want to break it
>down...
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