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   Prescence of evil spirits                                                       
     "Life in Africa" <lists@lifeinafrica.com>                                       

   there has never been smoke without fire                                         
     "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com>                                      

   Walking ghosts of war                                                           
     "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com>                                      

   when 2 elephants fight the grass suffers                                        
     "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com>                                      

   The Africa Speaks Initiative                                                    
     "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com>                                      



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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:13:04 +0300
From: "Life in Africa" <lists@lifeinafrica.com>
Subject: Prescence of evil spirits 

From: "Africa Speaks Initiative"
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Name:        Okia Ak
Age:         16-25
Occupation:  Businessman
Nationality: Ugandan

Terrorism is a common phenomenon in Africa because it has
been manifested in so many different ways. It has brought a
lot of suffering to so many people especially in Northern
Uganda.

The US attacks were very dangerous and they should be fought
globally. Governments should also get ways in which to avoid
future conflicts, as well as stop support for terrorist
activities.

Terrorism today is a prescence of evil spirits in both the
20th and 21st centuries.

Okia Ak, Uganda
Okia_Ak@lifeinafrica.com


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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:13:15 +0300
From: "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com>
Subject: there has never been smoke without fire

From: "Africa Speaks Initiative"
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Name:        Byarugaba Benson
Age:         16-25
Occupation:  self employed
Tribe:       Munyankole
Nationality: Ugandan

My view of the American attack is that there must be a long
time hatred between the Americans and the terrorists because
there has never been smoke without fire. However may God
forgive the world for the innocent shedding of blood. Some
people believe in living history but this earns no reward.

The war itself might have resulted from religious differces
between moslems and christians just like the case here in
Uganda in Kasese district. However, America should not
revenge because some innocent people will be killed in many
countries where war may be waged.

Byarugaba Benson
Byarugaba_Benson@lifeinafrica.com

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:22:26 +0300
From: "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com>
Subject: Walking ghosts of war

From: "Africa Speaks Initiative"
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Name:        Lamwaka Beatrice
Age:         16-25
Occupation:  Student
Tribe:       Acoli
Nationality: Ugandan

America is great and must realise it is a super power and
everything they will decide will affect the the whole world,
therefore must scrutinise the situation before rushing to
any action.

There is need for peace talk between the americans and the
terrorist so that many lives(innocent) are not lost, this
will take an eternity to end.

Sincerely, I do not know, I only  think it is a terrorist
attack and they should be dealt with and not a group otr
notion,not all people in a nation are criminals.

America should not revenge by starting a war. No! War is not
the solution. The question is war against who? Americans
should not rush to war but find out the truth and must find
a heart to forgive and that will proof that America is a
super power. Whenever america suffers the rest of the world
suffer too.

I was born in a war affected area of Northern Uganda. My
education was delayed and many people in my home area have
watched their loved ones mutilated, slaughtered and it is a
very traumatising experience.

My brother was abducted by the rebels for four weeks. By the
time he came back home, we had alredy performed the retual
of "dead and not found". The whole time after his arrival to
his death, he was treated like a ghost.I hate war and I am
sure it is not the solution to terrorism, because it will
continue. I would have finished my education by now, but
could not because I spent my time runing in and out of class
everytime I heard a gun shot.

Lamwaka Beatrice
LamwakaBeatrice@lifeinafrica.com


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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:16:45 +0300
From: "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com>
Subject: when 2 elephants fight the grass suffers

From: "Africa Speaks Initiative"
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Name:        Pamela
Email:       pamela@lifeinafrica.com
Age:         36-50
Occupation:  Research assistant
Nationality: Ugandan

My condolences to the American people,these are my views.
America should not respond by war. Whoever did these
terrorist attacks should stop it because they are shedding
blood of innocent people. America should check it's
policies(external) especially on security/economy(aid).

America is a terrorist country whose aim and goal is to
terrorise Others. The accusaton they are making aganist
Osama Bin Laden is not just enough. America trained this man
to fight aganist Russians. If he has turned aganist them
it's okay except that when 2 elephants fight the grass
suffers. It's the innocent people who died in these attacks.

America should not respond by war because violence cannot
solve violence. They should treat the cause and not the
effects. America is involved in helping israel to terrorise
the palestinians who pour innocent blood. When they are
attacked they respond with fire, others are also human
beings created in God's image. America is number 1 in
violeting human rights and in dictatorship.

America is fond of dictating terms for other countries that
will suit them especially developing countries, they are not
given chance to develope thus will remain undeveloped. Alot
of strings are usually attached.

In conclusion America is like a woman who goes to fetch
water in a pot and puts a thorn on the way for her enemies
but as she comes back it pieces her on the foot and she
breaks the pot. America deserves it as acountry but i feel
sorry for the innocent ones

Pamela,Uganda
pamela@lifeinafrica.com


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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:58:20 +0300
From: "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com>
Subject: The Africa Speaks Initiative

Hi all -

Greetings from Uganda, where we have now laid a big chunk of
the groundwork for an innovative experiment in global
democracy.

Beginning 18 September, the Africa Speaks Initiative will
bring the true voices of the African grassroots into
international internet-based discussions about the current
global crisis.

Geert has invited me to post selected messages from the
Africa Speaks Initiative to this list. If you would like to
receive ALL of the messages posted through the Africa Speaks
Initiative, you can sign up with a blank email to
africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com

There is a press release at http://LifeInAfrica.com which
describes the project in greater detail. We're all pretty
excited about it here in Kampala, and hope that you will
assist us by telling as many people as possible. We also
hope you'll reply to the posts, and ask questions that can
help guide the discussions in a fruitful direction.

Thanks in advance for your participation in the Africa
Speaks Initiative.

You'll hear more from us tomorrow!

Christina Jordan
http://LifeInAfrica.com

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