<nettime> RERE: Gibraltar DIDIgest [x2]

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From: The World Trade Organization <info@gatt.org>
     To: "Carse, Steve" <Steve.Carse@economics.treasury.gov.im>
          Subject: RE: Gibraltar
From: The World Trade Organization <info@gatt.org>
     To: "Carse, Steve" <Steve.Carse@economics.treasury.gov.im>
          Subject: RE: Gibraltar

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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:19:58 -0400
To: "Carse, Steve" <Steve.Carse@economics.treasury.gov.im>
From: The World Trade Organization <info@gatt.org>
Subject: RE: Gibraltar

Now Mr. Carse, there's no reason to get uppity. We are on your
side--you, the little man who plays by the rules. We are here to help
you understand the exigencies of the global playground, so that you
may understand the pathways through which you and your government MAY
move and those through which you MAY NOT. Given this, it is hard to
say why you would seek to endanger your standing through impatient
words. If I were you, given the circumstances, I would question
whether my nation (the Isle of Man, in your case) is really all that
interested in benefitting from trade.

But to answer your question: Gibraltar's business arrangements are not
the affair of other governments, either yours or those of more
populous lands. Gibraltar is free and sovereign to enter into trade
arrangements with the enterprises that choose it, and it would be a
violation of Gibraltar--and I mean that in the full sense--to suggest
that the whim of the people--its own, or those of other lands--can
impede those arrangements.

With very best wishes,
Granwyth Hulatberi-Hulatberi-Smith

You wrote:
>
>I have absolutely no idea what your reply is all about.  May I just repeat
>my simple request?  Is Gibraltar a member of WTO in its own right or is it a
>member through the United Kingdom?  
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: The World Trade Organization [mailto:info@gatt.org]
>Sent: 12 May 2001 00:58
>To: Carse, Steve
>Subject: RE: Gibraltar
>
>
>No land on earth may be considered free, if freedom means to engage in
>activities that endanger the well-being of corporate enterprise. So
>long as, and only so long as, nations understand their place on
>earth as being in service of, and at the beck of, the driving forces
>of economics, so shall these nations be afforded a place at the right
>hand of power. But let the tiniest nation--yea, even Gibraltar, even
>the Isle of Man--arise upon the poop-deck of declamation... let it
>wield for even a moment the baton of popular power against the
>furnace of progress... let it stagger drunkenly into the path of the
>train of misguidedness... then, indeed, shall that nation see the full
>force of our petulance and our peevishness unleashed squarely upon its
>head, and all its head's heads as well.
>
>(Sorry for that rant--we have a bug on our shoulder
>since the latest round of dangerous-idea circulation masquerading as
>protest.)
>
>Best,
>Granwyth Hulatberi-Hulatberi-Smith
>
>You wrote:
>>My enquiry was to do with whether Gibraltar has a relationship with WTO
>that
>>was similar to the one we, the Isle of Man, has.  Your response does not
>>help me on this.  Can you say anything more e.g. is it free to have its own
>>exemptions?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: The World Trade Organization [mailto:info@gatt.org]
>>Sent: 11 May 2001 20:23
>>To: Carse, Steve
>>Subject: Re: Gibraltar
>>
>>
>>Yes. Gibraltar is a little plot of land at the tip of Spain, right
>>across from Morocco, under the governorship of Britain. The WTO is the
>>World Trade Organization, which was created to allow a greater freedom
>>for corporate entities to engage in their activities unhampered by the
>>protective strategies of democratically elected governments.
>>
>>Why do you ask?
>>
>>You wrote:
>>>Could you advise me of the relationship of Gibraltar to the WTO?  
>>>
>>>Stephen Carse
>>>Government Economic Adviser
>>>Economic Affairs Division
>>>The Treasury
>>>Illiam Dhone House 
>>>2 Circular Road
>>>Douglas
>>>Isle of Man
>>>
>>>Tel:  01624 685741
>>>Fax: 01624 685747
>>>
>>>steve.carse@economics.treasury.gov.im
>>>
>>>
>>>WARNING:
>>>If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail you must not copy or
>>>deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner.
>>>

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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:16:52 -0400
From: The World Trade Organization <info@gatt.org>
To: "Carse, Steve" <Steve.Carse@economics.treasury.gov.im>
Subject: RE: Gibraltar

p.s. Your question as phrased in your last mail, "Is Gibraltar etc.
etc.", is in no way the same as those of your first two mails. In
fact, I am forced to conclude that your question keeps changing. If
you can resolve upon a single question and stick to it, there is every
chance that it can be answered appropriately, in spite of everything.
GHHS

> Now Mr. Carse, there's no reason to get uppity. We are on your
> side--you, the little man who plays by the rules. We are here to help
> you understand the exigencies of the global playground, so that you
> may understand the pathways through which you and your government MAY
> move and those through which you MAY NOT. Given this, it is hard to
> say why you would seek to endanger your standing through impatient
> words. If I were you, given the circumstances, I would question
> whether my nation (the Isle of Man, in your case) is really all that
> interested in benefitting from trade.
> 
> But to answer your question: Gibraltar's business arrangements are not
> the affair of other governments, either yours or those of more
> populous lands. Gibraltar is free and sovereign to enter into trade
> arrangements with the enterprises that choose it, and it would be a
> violation of Gibraltar--and I mean that in the full sense--to suggest
> that the whim of the people--its own, or those of other lands--can
> impede those arrangements.
> 
> With very best wishes,
> Granwyth Hulatberi-Hulatberi-Smith
> 
> You wrote:
> >
> >I have absolutely no idea what your reply is all about.  May I just repeat
> >my simple request?  Is Gibraltar a member of WTO in its own right or is it a
> >member through the United Kingdom?  
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: The World Trade Organization [mailto:info@gatt.org]
> >Sent: 12 May 2001 00:58
> >To: Carse, Steve
> >Subject: RE: Gibraltar
> >
> >
> >No land on earth may be considered free, if freedom means to engage in
> >activities that endanger the well-being of corporate enterprise. So
> >long as, and only so long as, nations understand their place on
> >earth as being in service of, and at the beck of, the driving forces
> >of economics, so shall these nations be afforded a place at the right
> >hand of power. But let the tiniest nation--yea, even Gibraltar, even
> >the Isle of Man--arise upon the poop-deck of declamation... let it
> >wield for even a moment the baton of popular power against the
> >furnace of progress... let it stagger drunkenly into the path of the
> >train of misguidedness... then, indeed, shall that nation see the full
> >force of our petulance and our peevishness unleashed squarely upon its
> >head, and all its head's heads as well.
> >
> >(Sorry for that rant--we have a bug on our shoulder
> >since the latest round of dangerous-idea circulation masquerading as
> >protest.)
> >
> >Best,
> >Granwyth Hulatberi-Hulatberi-Smith
> >
> >You wrote:
> >>My enquiry was to do with whether Gibraltar has a relationship with WTO
> >that
> >>was similar to the one we, the Isle of Man, has.  Your response does not
> >>help me on this.  Can you say anything more e.g. is it free to have its own
> >>exemptions?
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: The World Trade Organization [mailto:info@gatt.org]
> >>Sent: 11 May 2001 20:23
> >>To: Carse, Steve
> >>Subject: Re: Gibraltar
> >>
> >>
> >>Yes. Gibraltar is a little plot of land at the tip of Spain, right
> >>across from Morocco, under the governorship of Britain. The WTO is the
> >>World Trade Organization, which was created to allow a greater freedom
> >>for corporate entities to engage in their activities unhampered by the
> >>protective strategies of democratically elected governments.
> >>
> >>Why do you ask?
> >>
> >>You wrote:
> >>>Could you advise me of the relationship of Gibraltar to the WTO?  
> >>>
> >>>Stephen Carse
> >>>Government Economic Adviser
> >>>Economic Affairs Division
> >>>The Treasury
> >>>Illiam Dhone House 
> >>>2 Circular Road
> >>>Douglas
> >>>Isle of Man
> >>>
> >>>Tel:  01624 685741
> >>>Fax: 01624 685747
> >>>
> >>>steve.carse@economics.treasury.gov.im
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>WARNING:
> >>>If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail you must not copy or
> >>>deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner.
> >>>

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