Josephine Bosma on 13 Mar 2001 15:44:23 -0000 |
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Re: <nettime> Hackers: the political heroes of cyberspace + URL target |
Patrice Riemens wrote: > The problem with you people (and that applies in equal measure to Paul > Mobbs & the 'Electrohippies' EDT/Floodnet epigonism) is that you were for > media attention from the very start. I would like to say something in defence of this particular aspect of Floodnet etc. Activism is something people get into to change something or provoke change of something. We all know media attention is a vital part of this. I think it is wrong to accuse Dominguez of wanting some kind of stardom out of this purely for the sake of stardom. It would have been almost impossible to get so much media attention and stay anonymous. Not because media attention creates stars, but because the psychological impact of a struggle or battle is much bigger when the person(s) behind it has/have a face. Vulnerability is as vital to good activism as are technical abilities because nothing shows the human need behind it better. What also bothers me about the criticism of hackers on hacktivism is this hammering on the lack of technical abilities of hacktivists. I think hackers tend to mystify the net rather then demystify it. I also think hackers tend to romanticize anonymous their own 'activism', which -can- come down to plain anonymous interference, which then can easily be perceived as terrorism or crime. There is no control of what happens and who does what and why, no or little openness of actions. Is that what you want? Is that really an ideal situation? At the Infowar conf of Ars electronica, where this whole floodnet/hackers dispute started, I did an interview with a hacker who told me in plain language that in a case he would hack a 'bad corporation' or something and alter something there, it would be his decision alone whether this corporation was to be attacked. He admitted this was a weak part of this kind of activity. This happens all too easily when people act anonymously. I am glad I know who is behind floodnet and why. best J * # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net