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From: matze.schmidt@n0name.de Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2001 19:55 +0100 Subject: le mediatrans.11 le mediatrance.11 09022001 16:47 CET n0name live! from transmediale.01 (http://www.transmediale.de), Berlin 4 to 11 February 2001 r a 6th day flashback to 08022001 Panel: social software part III+artistic softare digital media/coding gives you more freedom to create and design softwareproduction sets social standards why is this festival not organized like Art d' Ameublement? low tech low cost (including offline) so that everybody can participate, in india one e-mail needs 10 min. for downloading software has impact on society, buttom-up politics, the real writers are programmers, make non- programmers programmers, non- programmers<->programmers. plurality of codes, participating design, rethink the term "social" [according to the cyborg/ai/robot- discussion?], cowboy imago of technicians, make them more interactive, Augustinus: who shares owns really. computer literacy. build in non-technical questions in the discourse. they make tools, "make algorhithmmhs enjoyable". jurymember worried about softwar art award - expected just 50 people in the house - because too nerdy. is the artists without knowledge of programming reduced to a stage desiger? code as codecode. "implementation of small realities, programmer becomes artist. the programm is running in front of us, the only medium that can be autonom. to be continued! (c) 2001 n0name & all -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matze.schmidt@n0name.de Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:32 +0100 Subject: le mediatrans.12 le mediatrans*.12 09022001 20:11 CET n0name live! from transmediale.01 (http://www.transmediale.de), Berlin 4 to 11 February 2001 ... the necessaty of a software art prize. a new territory, another ground for creative practice. [practiceprize] helps you to understand this software. code as codecode. understanding the machine itself. code as coding the code is the revenge of the representation of the thing that will happen: the programm. so coding is about what is going to happen - nothing new. the impressionists did it, jule verne did it. open artware would mean do concepts that took placed before. f**k the original programmer. the pencil of the machine. stocker: social | artistic = wrong, need social-art software. but what is the social space? somebody quotes duchamp's "not every artist is a chessplayer, but every chessplayer is a artist". cramer: in future the invisible. the fetish of the code. code itself is social. the problems of the birth of a new genre. *please do (not) confuse with mediatrans.de ("Die Medien Profis"), -.net ("Domains Are Free"), -.org, - .com, -.sex (c) 2001 n0name & all # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net