Ana Viseu on 23 Nov 2000 17:44:30 -0000 |
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Re: <nettime> Yahoo, the regulator |
[Here is an article from ZDNet on the topic of Yahoo! vs. French state, I think it complements Geert's post on Yahoo! as a regulator. Ana] http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20001122/tc/yahoo_pedophiles_no_nazis_yes_1.html By David Coursey;ZDNet News; 2000, November 22; Why does Yahoo! think it's above French law? You have to make some tough choices when you're an Internet portal these days. Take Yahoo!, which seems to have decided that Nazis aren't dangerous but pedophiles are; therefore, the company is getting after the pedophiles while defending people who want to sell swastikas where they aren't wanted. The stories describing this weird state of affairs are right here and here on ZDNet News. I found one a little above the other on the home page yesterday and couldn't resist the rich irony they present. In the first story, Yahoo! UK installs a moderator to chase pedophiles out of chat rooms. In the other, Yahoo! bemoans the French government's steps against its auctions of Nazi regalia -- even on the American Yahoo! site. It's hard to oppose chasing predators off the chat rooms. It's not like they won't go someplace else, but anything that makes it a little more difficult for sick people to prey on children is fine by me. It's easy for me to side with the French on the Nazi issue. If Yahoo! thinks it's too good to play by French rules, then French ISPs should filter all of Yahoo! out and their French site shut down -- forcibly, if need be. Rule of law No, it doesn't bother me that this means erecting a border on the Internet. I am all for the Internet losing out to the sovereignty of nations. That is, I believe, the only way the Internet will develop its full potential -- by respecting local laws where its users live. Yahoo! wants to have it both ways. It wants a global Internet, but it doesn't want to deal with the conflicts that causes. Sure, Yahoo! France doesn't sell Nazi material in its auctions. But Yahoo.com, the American site, hardly stops at our borders. And if the French find it offensive, that's Yahoo!'s problem. After all, who is Yahoo! to tell the French they don't have the right to decide what's best for them and take steps to enforce their laws? The French are, for reasons easy to understand, sensitive about all things Nazi. As are the Germans, whose fear of a repeat of the 1930s and 40s has led them into a fight with a software company run by a member of the Church of Scientology. As I supported Germany's right to enforce its laws, I likewise side with the French. Yahoo! seems to be arguing on principle. At least I hope it isn't because the company is too lazy or stupid to fix its software to make the French happy. Amazon and eBay don't have trouble with the French because they've taken what seem like reasonable steps to comply with French law. Like the wise man said, "It's only software." The French are right, and Yahoo! is wrong. And that should have been the end of the story a long time ago. But today it looks like we can expect a protracted court fight, perhaps ending up before American judges as well and European ones. I'd like to see your comments on where the Internet stops and local laws -- and taxes -- should begin. ------------------------------------- Tudo vale a pena se a alma nao e pequena. http://fcis.oise.utoronto.ca/~aviseu # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net