brian carroll on 24 Sep 2000 20:06:42 -0000 |
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<nettime> Re: there is no place in cyberspace |
Michael Benson's post was entertaining and informative. (not entertaining in the T.E.D. sense, though). before delving into the ideas involved, the statement that `there is no place in cyberspace' seems to be revolving around the following paradoxes: * immateriality/virtuality and-or materiality * cyberspace and-or actual/real/astronomical space * relativity of outside-in and-or inside-out perspectives * social view of technology and-or technical view of society that these paradoxes may be dialectical conundrums of `thesis, antithesis, and synthesis' views (of either-or logic) would be to dismiss both sides of the paradox, which could be valuable to understanding the phenomenon in question. there appears to be a roadblock in language, in logic, how to address multiple perspectives. the route seems to be `i negate, therefore i am.' how to build beyond a criticism and into a knowledge system, in the ever-shifting sands of collective reason... how can we use our multiple points of view (p.o.v.) of a phenomena, to integrate these into a larger, more shared, more diverse and complete view... this thread reminds me of ancient maps depicting the cosmos and the world. i searched online for examples, there are many, so i thought i'd send the url of Odden's Bookmarks. if you click 'browse' and then choose `old' and `universe/world' maps, you will find some maps depicting gods, goddesses, mythologies, beliefs, and past world views and cosmologies. http://oddens.geog.uu.nl/index.html these ancient maps could be considered related to mapping cyberspace today; evidence that our maps of cyberspace are social constructions. [in my search for maps, i came across http://www.newsmaps.com/ `explore landscapes of information'. the java didn't work on my mac-clone, but sending it in case others can get it to work]. onto and into deep space... > For his part Virilio raves very entertainingly about how real-time > transmission is allegedly destroying real space, but for all his brilliant > points about Renaissance perspective being usurped by the view up, into open > sky (a "place" wherein the real vanishing points lurk -- or is that 'point > lurks'?), he never quite grasps that, within the universe's larger frame, > real-time, light-speed transmissions in fact serve as the true yardstick of > the vast size of real space. As soon as you get any distance from our little > data-point, the Earth, this becomes quite clear, because it takes a message > (or a ray of sunlight) hours, days, or billions of centuries just to get > around. In other words, real-time _reveals_, it doesn't conceal, real space. i too think that cyberspace extends into the deep space network of probes and rovers and landers. there is supposed to be an inter- planetary intranet being developed to relay signals more effectively from far flung space probes. the technology is amazing. nuclear batteries. fuel cells. solar cells. electronics. i've heard that one of the probes had the battery power of a small flashlight and another that of a watch battery, sending signals, speed of light, back to ground stations on Earth, millions of miles away. the fact that this tranversing of astronomical space and time happens with the speed of light as measurement, i do not think passed by Virilio, but instead that Virilio made it an Earthly concept. how, for example, does one think about radio signal travelling at 186,000 miles a second, when the fastest physical thing (besides thought, speech, sound, and sight, and sensation) is driving a car at 60+ miles per hour. it is a paradigm of difference. a different order of being, of seeing. Virilio understood this as both a cosmological (and for him spiritual) speed, and also as natural, human speed of thought, of information, of energy in the electronic space-time of `the light of speed.' another reasoning word for enlightenment. the Voyager Space Probe, to me, is a cyberspatial event par excellence. in that it had a literal record of humanity, of languages, of cultures, of physiology, of geography, of sound and image... an electronic ambassador that exited the solar system sometime ago... an artifact of our early electronic civilization, hopefully someday to be found. it is a sign of our early cyberspace in astronomical space, and it is the farthest extension of humanity in an object we have, besides that of our radiating electromagnetic signals... the electromagnetic signals will reach places farther and faster than the physical object. similarly, on Earth, this same realization has been made over the last 2 centuries. it seems that astronomical space data will be increasingly valued in pragmatic day-to-day terms, such as the effects of solar flares caused by sun spots, which spew particles which shower Earth and the electrical infrastructure, the Internet, and the New Economy, as a result. someday, the electromagnetic storm will be a recurring theme on TV news weather forecasts. here are some interesting satellite images & maps for public viewing... like viewing the solar system, these offer another view of Earth, an external vantage from an internalized p.o.v. in electronic cyberspace, (which, also constitutes how the satellites work, by transmitting their data via our understanding of electromagnetic space-time in both realms)... bc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ s a t e l l i t e m a p s ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SATELLITE METEOROLOGY: The following directories contain image products and images as they are generated in near real-time by the NRL-Monterey SeaSpace TeraScan receiving station. Routine images are produced on a nominal 1/2 hour update schedule. We currently do not capture the rapid scan data from GOES-10. Visible images are only generated during local daylight hours. http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/projects/sat_products.html ^top updated: 5/27/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > METEOSAT IMAGES: These pages provide easy access to the very latest wefax images transmitted by the Meteosat satellite. We make every effort to ensure that our pictures are as up-to-date as possible, they'll usually arrive here within 5 minutes of reception, remember that the times shown in the captions are in GMT. The images have all been jpeg compressed to about 100Kbytes, but are otherwise exactly as Meteosat disseminated them - in monochrome with a resolution of 800 x 800 pixels and with landmass outlines. http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/meteosat/ ^top updated: 5/27/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SPACE PHYSICS INTERACTIVE DATA RESOURE: SPIDR is a service provided by the National Geophysical Data Center, Solar-Terrestrial Physics Division, which allows users to browse, plot, and retrieve data, including DMSP, Geomagnetic, Ionospheric, Solar, Cosmic, and GOES information. Due to some of the advanced features of this system, you should have as up-to-date a browser as you can find. http://spidr.ngdc.noaa.gov:8080/index.html ^top updated: 5/27/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SATELLITE GLOBAL COVERAGE: maps of cloud cover, ozone, winds, and water vapor around the Earth. http://motown.gsfc.nasa.gov/global.select/control2.html ^top updated: 6/2/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ cartography links from http://www.architexturez.com/ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net