Heiko Recktenwald on Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:19:27 +0200 (CEST)

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Re: <nettime> NameSpace (get.xs2.net) banned from mail delivery

> [I discovered this yesterday (monday) after trying to send a mail to 
> a friend (his actual mail-address is at Humboldt University Berlin, 
> obviously subscribed to this mail-abuse-"service"):
> <<< 550 Mail from rejected; inform your mail provider or 
> see http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/enduser.html
> 554 <xxx@xxx.xxx>... Service unavailable

They had ORBS before. More or less the same.

> >  "spam" relay is over-reaching.  We choose to
> >  operate an open relay and have done so for
> >  years, for the convenience of our mobile
> >  clients who wish to use it.  There has only

"Imagine you are traveling"..., did something on this at

There is a spamwar article by Lessig etc. Worth reading. Some time old. 
What was most surprising was that I had never heard of this war. 
Everything is debated in the net, from DeCSS to whatever you want, but the
ORBS....if you are not a regular reader of mailabuse newsgoups for
postmasters. Everybody talks about filters, how bad they are, china (which
is very big and far away, btw), singapore etc, but this filter system was
introduced by some users themselves. Nice case.

Btw, spam is annoying. But it has also some "trash" value. Part of the
infobahn experience. And I think I would allow local spam, groceries etc
for their neighbors. Sotosay "spam priviledges" the way the emperess Maria
Theresia helped underdevelopped villages in the alps of austria in other

Postmasters are helpless and keep their mouth. But the battle is more or
less over. 


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