[Nettime-bold] Re: nettime William Gibsons Pattern Recognition andEthnomathematics (Re: nettime-l-digest V1 #1069)

["Paul D. Miller" <anansi1 {AT} earthlink.net>]

J - you're kind of right. Yes, I did do the ads, and yes, I've done 
others. I also try to get other kinds of information out.

My name is Paul D. Miller. Dj Spooky is a conceptual art project, not 
a "gaseous" situation. If you have more of an idea of the notion of 
how pop culture works, think of it as a hybrid of what Marcel Duchamp 
was working on with the "Rrose C'est La Vie" persona, or Andy Warhol. 
Just metaphors, but metaphors that work in a large scale global 
environment. The phrases I used were samples taken from

1. Saul Williams single with Dj Krust "Coded language"

2. a couple of old hip-hop singles...

if you'd like to compare notes on how people use this kind of 
quotation in hip-hop vernacular, and many other forms of folk 
culture, I'd be more than happy to dialog 'bout it.


there's a relatively shrill and annoying sheen to your comments, and 
if you'd like to dialog rather than have some annoying rant about 
stuff you don't know about, I'm open, otherwise - fuck off.


>Paul aka Subliminal Inc.,
>
>All three actually.
>
>First, I was responding to the gaseous nature of your post concerning the
>intersections of advertising and freewheeling-'droppin-science' coded
>languages of the 'NOW' a'la sitiuationist conceptuals; moreover, how that
>relates to the fiberous nature of 'the old left'...
>
>Second, I wanted to point out the interesting point that Spooky (being you,
>not the character of your upcoming novel) was an organ of the GAP campaign
>-- or as you like to put it, the global vernacular of GAP Inc. -- here in
>New York City. I'm not saying it compromises your ability to comment with
>any depth, as there are many cult studs that are busy deciphering the
>semilogical and linguisic markers of advertising. But to me, that is just
>'mad boring'. Its the surface. The spectacle. The depthless sheen of
>unreality. Kinda like your comments. The real language is in finance and
>economics, not hidden in the models bra.
>
>You think the 'old left' is petrified. You're not alone. You think the left
>should study Diesel ads to be 1. alot smarter  2. alot more dynamic? You
>are alone, I hope.
>
>And actually, there are folks in Kansas, but what would they matter to the
>'NOW.'
>
>J
>
>On 25 Feb 2003, Paul D. Miller wrote:
>  > J - not sure what you mean. Situationnist material? Advertising? Or
>  > "Spooky" - who is a character in my upcoming novel? Please clarify
>  > what this has to do with your comments. This kind of stuff is mad
>  > boring.
>  >
>  > Paul
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > >  > DJ Spooky - WHAT are you talking about???
>  > >  >
>  > >  > >Gibson understands ADVERTISING as a kind of
>  > >  > > Situationist
>  > >  > > detournement
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > >Wasn't it "Spooky that Sublimated Kid" who lent himself to the inspired
>GAP
>  > >advertisements here in Manhattan a year or so ago?  Its all posture, and
>it
>  > >really is Spooky.
>  > >
>  > >j-
>  > >
>  > >usemenow.com
>  > >
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>  > "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
>  > they are free...."
>  > Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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>  > Paul D. Miller a.k.a. Dj Spooky that Subliminal Kid
>  >
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"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe 
they are free...."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


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Paul D. Miller a.k.a. Dj Spooky that Subliminal Kid

Office Mailing Address:

Subliminal Kid Inc.
101 W. 23rd St. #2463
New York, NY 10011

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