Lachlan Brown on Mon, 22 Apr 2002 04:05:02 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> The Economist: The Internet sells its soul |
There are a number of technical utility (ISP) providers who take a long term view over the security of digital properties as well as compliance over existing and expected laws and regulatory frameworks, with well advised policies on social inclusion, the refusal of content that denigrates rights. There are also a number of legal firms advanced in their understanding of ethical and legal problems likely to arise, and knowledgeable about digital compyright law, and its enforcement. There are also a number of promotion and marketing companies skilled in the methods of cynical reason and knowledgeable about the new networks. There are quite a few people and collectives making brilliant work and content. There are tens of millions of people with network access internationally. There's just an appalling culture of scholarship and of curation. (timid, pliant and compromised people). New people needed in both areas. I'll shortly be completing my 'Unmarked Graveof History - Unmade Bed of Culture' work and will get back to Internet stuff. If anyone would like to know more about the first two items above, get in touch. Best, Lachlan Brown (416) 826 6937 (416) 822 1123 >Anyone else? Please, if you want to assist lists now hosted on Yahoo!, let me know. The best would be if list owners are 'matched' with the server which is close to their activities, either thematically or geographically, or affinitywise. In case you wonder, this call is not for 'free' services. Some independent servers ask a small fee, but I never heard that such fees were a big problem. In case people do not like financial administration, such fees can also be paid once a year or even every two years. Ted is right that moving a list is delicated and complicated affair, but that should not stop anyone from making the move. The agressive adds underneath each Yahoo! posting have really become huge lately. Reason enough to go and look for an interesting sparing partner--or start a mail server yourself. Geert From: "Architexturez." <interface.az@ab-a.net> To: "'geert'" <geert@xs4all.nl> Subject: your Yahoo! suggestion on Nettime Hi, Geert, I just read your post on <nettime> The Economist: The Internet sells its soul You say: " Maybe we post a list of servers, ready to receive former Yahoo! groups and make a wider public announcement, showing that there are viable alternatives to Yahoo!" yes! Certainly, www.architexturez.net will host every architecture and spatiality related list that needs to defect from Yahoo! Or any of the commercial services. Architexturez is a free, "open" (inasmuch as one can be) community of architecture and related studies. Be sure to include us in case you ever publish a list. We'd do the rest. Bests! Anand Bhatt. www.ab-a.net For Architexturez. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://amsterdam.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold