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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> the dominion of nettime



  a post will follow explaining this. i want to be careful with my
  words, as there are things i do not know, cannot know, and will
  not presume to know. and want to be clear about that. but then
  again, there are things i do know, that those who may know of
  some tricksterism may not know in the net.art/theory crowds,
  that is an overlap of the net.architecture establishment, which
  was out to either have my work, promoting open-source archi-
  tecture, submit to their authoritarian structure and theorism,
  and was willing to pay and have me at their champaige meetings,
  or be framed for its destruction, which is what has now happened.
  this same person is a proponent of friends of the top .eu architects
  who are trying to make a mindgrab into hacking and cracking their
  established cultural order, and so a major offensive is going on,
  and it is best that the artists realize this, the theorists, and also
  the architects. as it ain't' funny, no Sir, and there will be hell to
  pay, as they say, but money won't be what it costs: reputations.
  this person is also, if remembering, on the far left, 'how far do
  you want to rock the boat' i asked. 'i want it to turn over' said
  they. you know, connected with Empire crowd, straight to the
  commune, forget about the complexities of socialism and of the
  value of social ideas, just solidify the social structure and add
  it to the economic mix and there you have a final formation. it
  is going to be coming around the corner. keep eyes open. and if
  you do not know someone, consider any assumed trust of their
  intentions for supporting (and-or then killing) your work. it is
  happening. architecture is a hard-profession, one of the most
  elitist, conservative, and closest to the biggest powerbrokers
  and imagemakers, which is all that is going on in aestheticizing
  thought. a type of eugenics. fine in private, but as public truth
  there is something to be desired, and heretics are burning now
  at the stake, while people who should be conscious of this are
  laughing. being handled, i'd say, by the established order of
  control of the operations, of the way things do not work. so,
  a post about net.sabateurs in the mist may be arriving, some-
  hour, some-day, some-week, or maybe not. matters how well-
  connected these power schemers who are about anything but
  open ideas and democracy are interested in. if it is as corrupt
  as it could be (worst case, unlikely) this may not be written.
  but worth the chance, as there are a lot of cracks, over there
  on the left, over there on the right, and a straight shot through
  the center to the students of these despots of thought. this is
  not the dark ages, but it will be unless we work together to
  drop the egos and see our connections, in public, at the most
  basic level, and try to find common ground to work from. on
  the left, on the right, and most importantly in the center. and
  that center, in quantum logic, is paradox. it is impossible to
  reach in the old traditional order, the old Empire now rebuilding.

  people are being handled, manipulated, and to some, it is brutal.
  that thing Hardt stated he desired: barbarism. that is what is
  now happening, instead of the social capital. it is the old logic.
  it is death and killing and war and power and greed and control.

  don't trust me. think for yourself. hints are one thing, truth an-
  other. some know more about what is going on than i. but with
  enough puzzle pieces, it is time for people to stand together, as
  a major information assault from within academia is underway.

  hopefully it will be contained. peace and education and change will
  occur, all at chaos and battles will not be the result. but a phase
  change, a change of state, of conscience, of values, of common-
  goals, shared ideals, dreams, for people the world over, humans.

>ok, tell me if this is an accurate summary:
>
>you believe that a group of nettime people, i.e. the dark network,
>broke into your computer and messed with your head as some sort of
>sick artwork/joke, all the while surveilling you and sending emails
>back and forth about how funny it was. and you believe perhaps this
>was retribution for some article you wrote critiquing one/some of
>them. also, they stole your info for their own use, in their articles
>and against you.
>
>but i guess the questions i have that were not answered in the post
>are:
>what post do you believe started this, and why?
>what proof do you have that surveillance/alteration happened?
>what proof do you have of a nettime dark network?
>who are these people?
>(yet, i presume you do not know who these people are since you say
>'unmask yourself')
>what proof links this dark network to the surveillance/alteration?
>why do you believe it to be nettime instead of the government as you
>did previously?

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