Bruce Sterling on Fri, 1 Mar 2002 22:35:02 +0100 (CET) |
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[Nettime-bold] That Lovable Zizek Guy |
>BS: You describe the internal structure of anarchist groups as being >authoritarian. Yet, the model popular with younger activists today is >explicitly anti-hierarchical and consensus-oriented. Do you think >there's something furtively authoritarian about such apparently >freewheeling structures? >Zizek: Absolutely. And I'm not bluffing here; I'm talking from >personal experience. Maybe my experience is too narrow, but it's not >limited to some mysterious Balkan region. I have contacts in England, >France, Germany, and more - and all the time, beneath the mask of >this consensus, there was one person accepted by some unwritten rules >as the secret master. The totalitarianism was absolute in the sense >that people pretended that they were equal, but they all obeyed him. >The catch was that it was prohibited to state clearly that he was the >boss. You had to fake some kind of equality. The real state of >affairs couldn't be articulated. Which is why I'm deeply distrustful >of this "let's just coordinate this in an egalitarian fashion." I'm >more of a pessimist. In order to safeguard this equality, you have a >more sinister figure of the master, who puts pressure on the others >to safeguard the purity of the non-hierarchic principle. This is not >just theory. I would be happy to hear of groups that are not caught >in this strange dialectic. *Hey, I've got one of those. http://www.viridiandesign.org *An online, feudal-theocratic organization since 1998. bruces, Viridian Pope-Emperor _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://amsterdam.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold