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Today Thanks to pavu.com's BPS you can at last move Jean Baudrillard to the place of your choice Try it now : http://pavu.com/BPS disclaimer : pavu.com cannot be accounted for any browsing scope malfunction. -- the pavu.com team http://pavu.com -/ forget the avant-garde ! gET readY for the en-Garde ! /- David Teh a *crit : > b more paranoid, > josh zeidner > wrote: > > > keywords: CYBERPOLITICS, CONSTRUCTIVISM, BAUDRILLARD > > I agree with you. "Information" cannot be free, it is entirely on > > the part of the subject to put it( data/messages ) in formation. As > > Ritchie pointed out, there are any number of ways at percieving reality > > ( constructivism ), but the proclimation "information wants to be free" > > is one-sided, and fails to see the whole equation. > > Baudrillard, sounding (incidentally) about as much like Foucault as he ever > would, <objectivity is a plot> reminds us that "scientificity is doubtless > only the space of " a discourse. (cf eg Foucault's Archaeology of > Knowledge). So science's discourse is but the "political and strategic > speech", the veil of 'objectivity' cast over things - and it is "never > innocent". > > > It seems to me that it is not "information" that people want to be > free, but rather the data or messages. Implying that mediation is the > > imperative, a manifesto that has numerous critics (Baudrillard). > > Information does not want to be free. Information does not want. > > Perhaps people do want messages to be free, but what would that mean?: > 'free' as in Liberated or 'free' as in You don't have to pay for it? Is > there a difference any longer? To liberate information is to make it > circulate, and things circulate best when you don't have to pay for them - > then you can be sure that you will move units. Information need not be > freed, just made to circulate, redistributed. We will watch it circulate. > That will be enough freedom for us. [On these matters, see Baudrillard's > 'Symbolic Exchange and Death' (1976), particularly Ch's 1&2...] > > Information need only circulate. Forget about production: > production = regulation; consumption = regulation > > This circulation is what Baudrillard would call simply 'reproduction', > which we all know no longer needs to be predicated upon some prior > 'production' - especially now that even *we* may be reproduced by this > same spontaneous reproduction of the code - to think we held this > fractal capacity in every cell, right from the start! For information, > the code, is apt to produce itself, to reproduce (by) itself. > > not production, just reproduction. what need have we to produce > anything? once we said: machines will do the work; now: the code will > do the work. we can sit back, and start with the real work of > regulating, of making things circulate. we make information circulate > without knowing or trying. > > the market-research "focus group" is the exemplary form of > '(re)production' in our age. no surprise that it is supposedly a place > where information is produced. like the laboratory with its rats, > information is thought to be emitted (or 'generated') by this > 'research'. even rats are free if there is a bar for them to press. > stimulus/response : question/answer - a good riff on this is > radiohead/donwood's <airbag> EP, itself lab-rat white - and who's it > pitched at? Baudrillard says Benjamin sensed this, but that > reproduction is no longer mechanical. (it is "structural" - not > 'biocybernetic', as WJTMitchell argues); and no more exchange value, for > what would such value 'refer' to when there's no longer any > referentiality, only tactically orchestrated differences? > > in the lab information is not just produced, it undergoes that (no > longer) miraculous transmutation, mere 'data' (dumb information) becomes > science i.e. marketable information. and not just marketable, but > liable to change the world. The accidental heroism of information. > So too is science made to reproduce and circulate. Every new mutation > is another patent, to be named, licenced in preparation for the next > forced mutation. > > the scientist's idea, of course, is silenced, made dumb again. but science > itself proliferates regardless [unto noise] scienctific knowledges may turn > out to be the best model for understanding the ineffable worthlessness of > information. the sciences have long been bloated - "one trips over truths, > one even treads some to death - there are too many of them" [Nietzsche in > 1888] > > obscene concentrations of information will result in spontaneous > disintegration, the spontaneous combustion of the heap. like the demise > of the publishing industry which, like pimps at the orgy of science, try > greedily to hoard this intellectual 'property', the apocalypse of > information will come not through any scarcity it tries to impose (in > the name of value, and production), but on the contrary, through the > over-production of information, through over-stimulation (hypertrophy) - > grotesquely bloated, the corporations will drown in their own value, and > that of their intellectual capital, the company bursting with its own > cleverness. here comes one now [a word from our sponsors, Asera of San > Francisco <they do E-biz solutions... thanks to Matthew Fuller>] > > <snip> > hey, hey! from the starting blocks. > hey, hey! asera rocks! > [verse two] > every day we invent our way > to our greatest goal. > we create, never hesitate, > always in control. > <snip> > > as information --> infinty ; its value --> zero ; geek --> > footballer/soldier > > [aside] incidentally, it will be the same for art as for science - > Jarry's 'National Department Store' of official painters, who are also > drowned in their own exchange value... > > focus group - cross-section - 2-dimensional sample - polling > > Baudrillard, quoting Sebeok's "Genetics and Semiotics": > > "The Soviet mathematician Liapunov demonstrated in 1963 that every > living system transmits a small but precise quantity of energy or matter > containing a great volume of information through channels laid down in > advance. This information is responsible for the subsequent control of > large quantities of energy and matter... [I]nformation appears in large > part to be the repetition of information..." > > But a train is not much good to us anywhere but on the tracks. > Baudrillard now: > > "Science explains things which have been defined and formalised in > advance and which subsequetly conform to these explanations, that's all > that 'objectivity' is." > > Not exactly revolutionary for the mid-70s, of course. And while his > attention (in this text and elsewhere) to the burgeoning > discourses/industries of information processing shows some pretty > astounding foresight, what's really most remarkable about this book is > his slick conflation, as one fertile metaphor, of DNA with Binary > Information (under the auspices of the CODE). Baudrillard manages to > tease out alarming similarities - not the least of which is a certain > CONTENT-LESS-NESS - which further tie these two CODEs to the other > vacuumed spaces of the once social: production; the polling obsession of > 2-party democracy; illusory competition between corporations. > > it's especially urgent now: binarity and digitality are a plot, and are > never innocent. like the WorldTradeCentre's twin towers, (each can only > be referred to its special 'other' which is identical to itself...this > enclosed referentiality is only play) > DUOpoly is MONOpoly that has figured out how to conceal the end of > competition. > > campaigns for the freedom(s) of information will ultimately disappoint. > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold