Brian Brotarlo on 30 Mar 2001 16:38:49 -0000 |
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Enough of this idiocy. Just go and read Hume and Locke. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> To: <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:00 AM Subject: <nettime> [}])([ > - > > > ([{}]) (blurring the distinctions) > > > > "Difference, being of the nature of relationship, is not located in time > or in space. We say that the white spot is 'there,' 'in the middle of the > blackboard,' but the difference between the spot and the blackboard is not > 'there.' It is not in the spot; it is not in the blackboard; it is not in > the space between the board and the chalk. I could perhaps lift the chalk > off the board and send it to Australia, but the difference would not be > destroyed or even shifted because difference does not have location. > > "When I wipe the blackboard, where does the difference go? In one sense, > the difference is randomized and irreversibly gone, as 'I' shall be gone > when I die. In another sense, the difference will endure as an idea - as > part of my _karma_ - as long as this book is read, perhaps as long as the > ideas in this book go on to form other ideas, reincorporated into other > minds. But this enduring karmic information will be information about an > imaginary spot on an imaginary blackboard." (Gregory Bateson, Gregory > Bateson's Mind and Nature: A Necessary Unity.) > > Perhaps it is in the nature of this particular difference to lie within > the imaginary, within an intentionality that fulfills a demarcative struc- > ture or domain: like all difference, it opens to continuous potential, to > worlds of fantasy, projection, introjection. Let us not stop with Austral- > ia; let us include, Japan, Mars, the depths of the ocean, the interiority > of the quark, the swimmerets of Jean-Paul the crayfish. I would argue that > meaning comes first, difference later - or that both are inextricable. As > difference slips from tally-board to concept, entity slips from red-dust > and sinter to constitutionality. > > Let us think further of difference as carried, much as numbers are carr- > ied in addition or subtraction: leaping among columns. Then distance so > easily slides from this _particular_ difference to all difference, all > within the imaginary, that is, all constituted by the nub or slightest > anomaly detected or created by organisms immersed in always already sym- > bolic flow. Here is translation into information, 0 -> 1 or 1 -> 0, or in > a scheme which I worked out years ago, (0-1)0-(1-0)1, a hierarchy of > transforms. If difference is a consideration of temporality, it breaks > from strict logic, although memory may be carried as well, and there are > temporal logics. And what difference isn't, in the process of becoming- > difference? One moves uneasily among logical/hierarchical schema and im- > mersive counterparts - among substances and organisms sloughing into and > throughout ones and others. > > A difference is that which makes a difference; what makes a difference, > makes it to one or another organism; what is the property of reading, but > the acknowledgment and presentification of difference. All else is the > non-purity of the mirror, the no-mirror and no-mind; difference itself > defers; deconstruction clutters (clatters). Not in Australia, this book, > hard to come by, exists in pristine condition; I would put out a call for > the author. > > And imagine, for example, the mark on the board as a zero, encircling Jor- > dan curve, slightly raised from the surface, characterized as dust in the > first and last place, the board a slate, archaic: I imagine sea anenomes > or even stromatolites - why not - leaving their traces. Is a difference a > distinction without an observer? Years ago I wrote about landscapes, to > imagine one without a viewpoint, perspective - an absolute landscape, not > with infinite holographic positionings, but none at all: most of the uni- > verse surely is without a witness. > > What happens to difference then? Surely, without a witness... > > Back here - around the corner, down the street - What goes on in locked > cells? For whom? What inscriptions? (Does difference need maintenance, a > database? The phenomenology of the witness requires a degree of stability, > quietude, modes of dissemination.) > > > ___ > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net > _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold