Michael Benson on 14 Mar 2001 19:10:21 -0000 |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> brief note |
Alan: For me this is a puzzling post. I'm not so up on deep-dish theory terms like 'terminal identity' and neo-alterioritizations like 'alterity' -- must've missed that day at school -- but don't see Alphaville space as either inert or, if I read you right, modern (i.e, at the modern end of your rhetorical construct ending with Blade Runner as an example of po-mo). The texture of the relatively unmodified 60's Paris that is Alphaville buzzes with flickering signs and lights: it's the opposite of inert. In fact, it's so animated that even the folding theater seats rise up and act as mass execution tools. Godard's alchemical power is such that a standard-issue recording studio isolation booth becomes the Alphaville uber-mind's interrogation chamber, simply by virtue of his having some anonymous best boy swivel and pivot the mikes from just outside the camera frame. Further, I would say it's the first, or one of the first, example of post-modernism in narrative film. (Compound constructions like "Figaro-Pravda" and "Natasha Von Braun", executed secret agents called Dick Tracy, etc. Plus the film is seemingly distilled from a kind of witch's brew of Orwell, Bond, film noir, cartoons, Huxley, etc. Compare this to Truffaut's failed stab at sci-fi -- Farenheit 451, which was indeed inert, and palpably behind the incipient p.m. curve -- and the extent of Godard's proto-postmodernism becomes clear.) I would even say that Blade Runner, with its super-slick seamless production values, is less a post- and more an end-product of modernity, despite being made more than ten years later. It's Ridley Scott does Metropolis (Ok, not exactly an original comparison; and don't get me wrong, I love the film). I get you, provisionally, on the issue of identities, both 'familiar' and 'absorbed', but don't see that as any more inherently postmodern than, say, the Fool in King Lear. Or Lear himself. Or, you know, Pozzo, in Waiting for Godot, frenetically down-loaded and regurgitating a kind of distilled 'meaningless' mediated blather. Finally, as is made more clear in the so-called director's cut, Deckert's identity as a human is undercut to the point where he could well be a replicant himself -- more than enough confirmation that (what I take to be) your point is right, that the dangerous 'humans' pursuing their only marginally more dangerous creations are just as created in the hall of fractured mirrors of our constructed universe. To quote the little chess-playing Tyrell Corp. slave, "These are my friends -- I made them." (Followed, in one of those rhetorical-plus-visual mirrorings salted throughout the film, in short order by the female replicant calling the Tyrellite drone "our best and only friend" -- another example being the Alpha replicant responding to the Japanese eye-maker by saying "I wish you could have seen what _I_ have seen, through your eyes.") But is this postmodernism? Was HAL-9000 postmodern? (Speaking of "terminal identity.") But probably I missed your drift entirely. Oh well -- back to picking up trash in the park. Cheers, Michael Benson -----Original Message----- From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:46 PM Subject: <nettime> brief note >- > > >brief note > >in alphaville, it is the inertness of contemporary space. in blade runner, >the inertness ties to the interiority of the biological: replicants, like >humans, die. it is this parallel trajectory which defines the issues of >identity; if alphaville's paris is a displacement of the real, blade >runner's replicants carry the virus of the real's grain. they are just as >constituted, constructed, as the humans on the hunt - no more or less. i >want to emphasize this granularity or substance as fundamental to culture >and organism; origin and speciation in this regard are secondary. > >this is the movement from modern to postmodern: the displacement of alpha- >ville tending towards the pervasive identities of blade runner's inhabita- >tions. neither are productions of terminal identity - both are character- >ized by alterities which are both familiar and absorbed as the same. > >_ > ># distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission ># <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, ># collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets ># more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body ># archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold