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Re: [Nettime-bold] Josephine Bosma's net art history
integer on 10 Feb 2001 10:00:34 -0000


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Re: [Nettime-bold] Josephine Bosma's net art history




>Even if I have respect 


ma!z Josephine Bosma'z `l!terar!` eksurz!onz != d!fr
4rom Josephine Berry'z eksurz!onz. = 
trend! + doc!le + ultra vegan.

vr!!endl!.nn



>for the amount of work Josephine Berry has put in
>her thesis, I feel like I have to make a comment about what I see as a
>few basic mistakes in her analyses. The basis of Berry's way of thinking
>seems to be that net art started in 1996 with net.art. There is no or
>hardly any mentioning of network art before that time, and even of net
>art made by others during the time net.art started to be discussed. Then
>there is the insistent hammering on the alledged political aims of this
>first net.art 'group'. Even if the works and attitude of -some- members
>of this group have been very influential in the way net art has been
>approached in especially the nettime community ( and also in the way it
>inspired some artists of a younger generation) it would be wrong to make
>an analyses of net art depend on these few and the spin around them.
>What I read (and have read in the past) from Josephine Berry view on net
>art is a strong focus on this political aspect of early net.art which
>then turns into an analyses of its failure every time she writes about
>it. And of course, what else could it be. The revolutionary potential of
>'political' art (for lack of a better term) has always been very small.
>This art is always part of a larger cultural change or tendency. I hope
>it is clear in her thesis that this particular analyses concerns a small
>but influential part of net art and that there will be many more up to
>date chapters on other artworks and trends in her thesis. 
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>best
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>J
>*




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