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Re: [Nettime-bold] SFMOMA and Intel |
bart says, i'm in tv now, it's my job to be repetitive. http://over.apiece.net guide Nmherman@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/10/2001 6:41:00 AM Central Standard Time, > curator@conceptualart.org writes: > > > That is > > the fear that wells up within when we see great big boulders lying in the > > middle of our little dirt information super byway like SFMOMA's latest. > > I tried to start a discussion of 010101 on Rhizome, David Ross insulted me, > and when I insulted back I was told to drop it. By all but the most radical > of my fringe group. Museums' hold on art was waning before the internet and > they're using it now not only to preserve their stature but coerce the mass > of its potential. Elitism and trickle-down allocation of value has been the > American Way for centuries and is in prime form in 2001. > > If > > art continually chases technology, it will always be in the service of > > industry. > > I call this the "artistic-technological complex", and have often before, but > am rarely listened to. The military was the cognitive rationale for > industry, hence they joined into a complex. Art is the new rationale for > technology. Growth is fueled by consumerism, i.e. the buying of unneeded and > wasteful and ineffective products. Display technologies need content. > Artists provide the content. And by artists I mean ESPN, Lou Reed, Ken > Burns, and Milan Kundera. The crises of the artistic-technological complex > are the crises of the very idea of art and artist--the oldest problem in > human history--not the crises of making cool browsers. > > ("I simply must learn Flash 5 or I'll never be able to complete > > my piece." says the young computer artist.) Similarly, if the museum > chases > > technology...what are the artists in the museum chasing. > > Success, viewers, a sense of playing a part in something, I suppose. or > dates and star treatment, ego gratification, self-discovery, social activism, > you name it. Most famous artists think they deserve their fame. (A lot of > them change their minds later and burn everything though.) Artists want to > be somebody; they want to be artists instead of just to try to be artists; > they want to be in the world as artists. I think it's an incestuous, greedy, > narcissistic view of life but it's very convincing to many. Some people like > the stimulation of striving for artistic success. The artists in 010101 are > also chasing the carrot and filling an essential role in the corporate future > art economy. > > Didn't Intel > > sponsor that processor gobbling monstrosity known as 010101. > > Yes; they also are collaborating with IBM on how to make disk drives that > cannot copy prohibited files. Imagine you find the cure for NAS, neural > attenuation syndrome, and try to upload it. It'd be like throwing a brick at > a 747. Lots, and I mean lots, of people would get sickeningly rich off such > tech so don't be surprised if they pull it off. People are witless of the > dangers of computerized society and won't see what hits them until it's too > late. (Unless we agitators succeed more.) > > In short, we > > cannot let those who author closed source applications determine our > digital > > destiny. > > > > That's the issue if you ask us. Maybe that's why we can't all just get > > along. > > > > If we sit back and let them, the macromedias and adobes will have us > > believing that they are the source of the creative impulse. > > They already have practically proved that they are. They have almost > exterminated alternate scenarios, in my opinion, if you look at media culture > and economy in its entirety: where it is now, where it's been since Reagan > or Moses, and where its momentum is pointing. > > > > > But before this thread fades into oblivion let's be sure to thank geert for > > starting the whole discussion. Otherwise, what impetus would we have to > > express ourselves ? We are very lazy after all. > > I think the discussion is just getting concrete and meaningful. Why kiss it > goodbye with gestures of collegial good will? I'm not lazy. But this post > won't get past Byfield I bet. > > Max Herman > The Genius 2000 Network > > _______________________________________________ > Nettime-bold mailing list > Nettime-bold@nettime.org > http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold