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Subj: Re: Perhaps we ought to distrust museums Date: 12/26/2000 1:06:23 PM Central Standard Time From: baseekins@netscape.net To: Nmherman@aol.com CC: Genius2000Conference2000@egroups.com I'm wishing to respond mostly just to the subject heading of the post: Of course we ought to distrust museums. Every intelligent, self-respecting producer of artistic/intellectual/imaginative material ought to look upon museums with utter contempt. That's not to say nobody should visit them and enjoy looking at the art work. I visit my local museum often on Friday evenings when they have free night and magnanimously open the doors to all the local riff-raff. But essentially, museums exist for the purpose of domesticating the revolutionary energy of artistic/intellectual/imaginative production. Museums exist to legitimize certain artistic/intellectual/imaginative productions, which has the (I believe very much intended) effect of marginalizing and de-valuing artistic/intellectual/imaginative production by virtually everybody else in society. Museums, along with Universities, are crucial to establishing a bogus hierarchy of "legitimate" artists, poets, critics, etcetera, and the faceless hordes beneath them who don't quite make the cut. A few "special" people get to produce artistic/intellectual/imaginative material and everybody else can just learn to be content with a life of wage slavery. If we're still interested in what the special people produce, we can watch a television show about it. Forget for a minute that it's absurd to talk about any sort of firm judgement in regards to artistic quality. "Artistic quality" is a reactionary term, used by museum and university hacks to justify the profoundly undemocratic allocation of funding and support to artists, writers and intellectuals. And anybody who has seen these institutions operate in person knows that the criteria for getting into the special person's club has less to do with actual artistic/intellectual/imaginative production and a lot more to do with where you went to school, who your professors were (and whether or not you were the sort of student who stroked their egos), dumb luck and maybe most important of all, how thoroughly you've internalized the materialistic and nihilistic ideology of late 20th century, early 21st century, celebrity consciousness. Museums are faux public spheres, in which actual access is very carefully regulated by a whole matrix of intentional and unintentional ideological checks and balances. Even the most revolutionary art work is no match for the domesiticating influence of the museums. Just as Universities rip the teeth right out of Stevens or Joyce (not to mention Shakespeare, Keats or Dickinson) by making them central to the canon, any really interesting work that ends up in a museum is subjected to a radical re-contexualization in which a lot of its genuine power is undermined. And probably the most disgusting thing about museums is the roll they play within the framework of PHILANTHROPY INC. Museums exist above all else because they provide a lot of opportunities for rich fucking dirtbags to congratulate themselves. In a world where 1.3 billion people don't even have safe drinking water, in a country where millions of people don't have adequate nutrition or shelter, rich fucking dirtbags routinely gather in museums, each dressed in fancy clothing that cost enough to feed a family thrown off from the AFDC rolls by the "liberal" demoncrats for a month or more, and then they congratulate themselves for how generous they are, for how ethically and aesthetically advanced they are. This should be aesthetically and intellectually untenable to anybody who truly considers him or herself to be an artist. Nmherman@aol.com wrote: > > Subj: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: [Nettime-bold] SFMOMA \ David Ross is a > Disreputable Person Running a Disreputable Institution > Date: 12/25/2000 9:38:00 PM Central Standard Time > From: integer@www.god-emil.dk > Sender: owner-list@rhizome.org > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:integer@www.god-emil.dk"> integer@www.god-emil.dk> </A> > To: Genius2000Conference2000@egroups.com, nettime-l@BBS.THING.NET, > list@rhizome.org > > > > > > re: > > >David Ross is a Disreputable Person Running a Disreputable Institution > >Ross, you're a bum! > > > If one may, NN has been made aware by SFMOMA `artists` that > they aren't provided with the software etc they desire > e.g. NATO.0+55 and thus are forced to travel begging. > > NN finds this ultra amussant + has concluded SFMOMA > may in fact be just another destitute plantation style > provincial `organization`. > > Friendly, NN > > > > > > > - > > Netochka Nezvanova - simply SUPERIOR > f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST > @www.eusocial.com > 17.hzV.tRL.478 > e > | > | +---------- > | | < > \\----------------+ | n2t > | > > e > > > > > > > >Subj: RE: RHIZOME_RAW: IBM&Intel push copy protection into ordinary > >diskdrives > >Date: 12/23/2000 4:53:36 PM Central Standard Time > >From: daross51@pacbell.net (David A. Ross) [Director of SFMOMA] > >To: Nmherman@aol.com > > > >Dear Max Herman: > > > >Holiday greetings to you as well, and may all your wishes for fame and power > >come true. > > > >David > > > >++ > > > >I take it you won't respond to the open letter regarding your theory of > >"internal revolution" to be brought by the internet. Remember the audience > >during your speech with Weibel, back in '99, and how they said "the internet > >is so new and all your comments and ideas about are so stale and cliche"? I > >do. It's on the tape you made too, I'll request access to it one day. > >Perhaps you better lose it somehow. > > > >An open question: Do you trust David Ross to do what's right? I don't. > >I've met him and seen many of his posts, and I say he's just another > >corporate weasel who works for the rich. > > > >For more background on this dispute, check > >www.egroups.com/group/Genius2000Conference2000 and > >http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/Archive2000.html (SFMOMA82700). > > > >Ross, you're a bum! > > > >Max Herman > >The Genius 2000 Network > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org]On Behalf Of > >Nmherman@aol.com > >Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 12:56 PM > >To: media@web.net; un-media@egroups.com; cyberculture@zacha.org; > >MediaReality-L@mailserv.fao.org; list@rhizome.org; syndicate@aec.at; > >nettime-l@BBS.THING.NET; mediamentor@egroups.com; > >Genius2000Conference2000@egroups.com > >Cc: VoteGenius2000@egroups.com > >Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: IBM&Intel push copy protection into ordinary > >diskdrives > > > >++ > > > >The new agenda for digital art at the SFMOMA is paid for by Intel. Why > >don't > >we all get out there and start getting some. Let's get some. Let's get > >some. David Ross, fuck you. Hard. It's a sin not to act. Delenda est > >Sfmomo. Many humans die grasping for the things we are allowing to be > >murdered. > > > >Come on fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > >Max Herman > >The Genius 2000 Network > >http://rhizome.org/object.rhiz?1866 > >Now is the time > > > > > + http://www.entropy8zuper.org/skinonskinonskin > -> Rhizome.org > -> post: list@rhizome.org > -> questions: info@rhizome.org > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/subscribe.rhiz > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support > + > Subscribers to Rhizome Raw are subject to the terms set out in the > Member Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php3 > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: <owner-list@rhizome.org> > Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) by > air-yd02.mail.aol.com (v77.31) with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 22:38:00 -0500 > Received: from rhizome1.client.dti.net (rhizome1.client.dti.net > [206.252.131.211]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (v77.27) with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Dec > 2000 22:37:44 -0500 > Received: (from mjrdomo@localhost) > by rhizome1.client.dti.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) id eBQ3V4607737 > for raw-resend; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 22:31:04 -0500 > Received: from www.god-emil.dk (IDENT:root@www.god-emil.dk [194.255.106.82]) > by rhizome1.client.dti.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eBQ3V3l07730 > for <list@rhizome.org>; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 22:31:03 -0500 > Received: (from integer@localhost) > by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA10935; > Tue, 26 Dec 2000 04:30:59 +0100 > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 04:30:59 +0100 > From: integer@www.god-emil.dk > Message-Id: <200012260330.EAA10935@www.god-emil.dk> > To: Genius2000Conference2000@egroups.com, nettime-l@BBS.THING.NET, > list@rhizome.org > Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: [Nettime-bold] SFMOMA \ David Ross is a > Disreputable Person Running a Disreputable Institution > Sender: owner-list@rhizome.org > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: integer@www.god-emil.dk > > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <baseekins@netscape.net> Received: from rly-xd05.mx.aol.com (rly-xd05.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.170]) by air-xd05.mail.aol.com (v77.31) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 14:06:22 -0500 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by rly-xd05.mx.aol.com (v77.27) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 14:05:57 1900 Received: from baseekins@netscape.net by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.f0.5cdaa4 (16241); Tue, 26 Dec 2000 14:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from netscape.com (aimmail01.aim.aol.com [205.188.144.193]) by air-in03.mx.aol.com (v77.31) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 14:05:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 14:05:33 -0500 From: baseekins@netscape.net To: Nmherman@aol.com Cc: Genius2000Conference2000@egroups.com Subject: Re: Perhaps we ought to distrust museums Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3A0495CA.71FD2023.02DD35D1@netscape.net> References: <9c.a2e2645.277981db@aol.com> X-Mailer: Franklin Webmailer 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold