Keith Sanborn on 28 Sep 2000 21:17:48 -0000 |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> "The Without Response" Verbal 3, Call & Response |
Well, I guess that makes sense. I have to agree, I really don't know what the need for big institutions is in all this unless they can supply high bandwidth servers.... Keith On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Robbin Neal Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Keith Sanborn wrote: > > > Another way of putting this might be: for whom was the even > > intended? the cyber-cognoscenti? if so it was preaching to the converted, > > if to the art world, was it a class? and why would they want to know these > > things. What good would it do? Was it to re-establish the Kitchen in its > > tradition role as mediator to the culture of techno-artistic > > experimentation? > > > At one point we thought the audience would be the same group of friends > who always show up at these things, and maybe it was, I couldn't tell. > > I saw it as a kind of "bookend" to PORT MIT in 97 and a final closure so > we could get on with things. So, in a way, it *was* a class meant for the > art world. I'm not surprised The Kitchen was disappointed since they > assume they are calling the shots, like most art institutions these days. > It is a bargaining chip in the future negotiations that will go on between > artists and art institutions about what constitutes "digital art" (or > whatever we call it). Whatever it was it was definitely NOT the Webbies. > > That said, I'm not even sure we should bother with art institutions any > way. We've already shown that we'll keep developing our practice without > their attention. But I do think they have the obligation to support or at > least facilitate artists. Otherwise, they're just mortuaries, or worse, > clubhouses for a small group determining cultural policy for everyone > else. > > What was most significant about the event wasn't the event itself but how > it came to be done through what has ended up being called "the Upgrade > meetings" also instigated by by Yael Kanarek. Most of us have been meeting > casually once a month to talk and show each other what we're doing with no > art administrators allowed. Call & Response was a larger version of those > meetings in some ways. So maybe the audience was still each other in some > respects and the whole thing was a lesson in self gratification. Maybe > not. We'll see what happens next. > > Rob > > > Robbin Murphy > robbin.murphy@nyu.edu > http://artnetweb.com/iola/ > > > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net > _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold