Bram Dov Abramson on 25 Jul 2000 21:21:32 -0000 |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> Terror in Tune Town |
mwark@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au: >My concern is that if you can't 'propertise' the information, then all >power resides with whoever owns the vector. The pipe -- the part that >is still physical and material property -- will be where the power lies. >The pipe guys will be king. tbyfield@panix.com: >a PSTN (public switched telephone network) >regime, because they were 'smart' networks, in the sense that the >devices at the core determined what went where, when, and how. >but the net is a 'dumb' network: its primary design goal is to en- >sure that packets are delivered point to point, so 'intelligence' >is pushed to devices on the periphery. Doubt it. The Internet works great as a fairly dumb network when the Internet's sole goal is to push modest amounts of ascii & download-now-use-later data files to various people. Which is fine by me, but many billions of dollars seem to have been mobilized to turn the Internet into something else. Which means that the PSTN / IP difference is not so much the architecture (romanticized old world / brave new world narratives aside). It's what's being pushed down the pipes, on the one hand, and the degree of vertical consolidation among the different slices of architecture which do the pushing, otoh. And those feed into one another: the more people try and push audiovisual stuff down pipes (aka "rich content", "broadband media", "bitcasting", even ... "broadcasting", once), the more IP and SS7 (the latest version of PSTN; yes, it's packet switched) look strangely similar, and the more vertical integration takes place (in lieu of "slower" decision_by_committee) as a way of making that architectural "innovation" happen: >thus there are the backbone providers IP: backbone providers (and iisps = international isps) PSTN: international carriers IP: >the routing registries, the naming registries, PSTN/SS7: Service Control Point, Signal Transfer Point... IP: >the caching providers PSTN: no equivalent, cause audiotex never caught on big enough (with an important exxxception). On the other hand calling caching an "edge" or a "core" function is largely semantic within this kind of discussion. The cache and multicast boxes don't sit at the user's end, they sit inside the network. Content the "end user" wants to push onto the Internet is subject to the routing policies of those boxes. If looking for a political economy spin or choke point, cf the various agreements between Akamai and various backbone providers, for example; then note the revenue streams flowing from content providers to caching providers. >ISPs of various shapes and sizes This is more and more true of the PSTN too. Telephony's institutional alignment is an artefact bound up far more in market and regulatory decisions than the network architecture used to build it. >these forces don't see eye to eye *at all*. Here's where we agree a bit. There is a lot more churn in the IP (here, that's Internet Protocol) world than the PSTN has had (see above), and that's a good thing. For example the way the naming/routing registries on the IP side are *comparatively* divorced from the backbone providers. Regulators looking for anti-competitive and anti-trust flags -- and, say, sideline observers worried about monopolies of knowledge infrastructure (to gloss Innis) -- would probably do well to look for a layered approach that makes sure things stay this away, ie that vertical consolidation doesn't allow IP players to yoke together vertical layers in much the way that the PSTN world does. So to bring this back to the other kind of IP: sounds like Ken Wark is arguing that if content producers don't "own" the content, then the distributors will; that Ted Byfield is saying that that's a good thing, because the means of distribution are so fragmented that nobody can own that content at all (maybe the Publius project should be thought of as a by-design version of that, http://www.cs.nyu.edu/~waldman/publius/). I don't know enough to say either way, only that the economic+technical conditions Ted is describing won't hang around forever -- at least not on their own -- and that that might be a source of concern & intervention. cheers Bram _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold